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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 02:53 PM PST Greece's "Meaningless" Debt The Debt-to-GDP ratio in Greece is now at 175% and rising. Recall Troika statements said anything over 120% was unsustainable. Yet each quarter debt and debt service ratios rise. Now, a new argument has arisen: Greece does not need debt relief because its maturities and payback time are large. Charles Wyplosz, a professor of economics at the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies in Geneva, takes issue with that belief in a Bloomberg article The Anti-Debt-Relief Crowd Is Wrong on Greece. Since Chancellor Angela Merkel's impressive victory at the polls, however, a push-back has begun, most recently from Klaus Regling, the managing director of Europe's bailout fund, the European Stability Mechanism. He argued in an interview last week that by now the maturities on Greek debt are so long and the interest rate it pays so low that the scale of the debt pile itself has become "meaningless." Puppies Beg for Treats Like a puppy begging for a treat, Greek PM Samaras expected to seek debt relief from Merkel. During scheduled talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Friday, Prime Minister Antonis Samaras is expected to ask for a lightening of his country's huge debt, according to a report in Germany's Sueddeutsche Zeitung.Euro Debate Greece Isn't Having Begging for treats from an unsympathetic master will not produce any results. Nor will the ostrich approach of sticking one's head in the sand. It's time for an honest discussion about Greece. Please consider The euro debate Greece is not having There is no dispute that Greece's current account, from a staggering deficit of close to 35 billion euros in 2008, is nearing balance. But the majority of the correction of the trade deficit is covered by a collapse in imports due to domestic demand almost evaporating after three years of austerity and disposable incomes plummeting by almost a third.Sisyphean Tasks The adults are still unwilling to hold a discussion. Germany insists Greece become more German-like but the math says it's impossible. Prime Minister Antonis Samaras doesn't want another restructuring (for the simple reason he knows Germany will not allow one). Instead he begs for treats, from a master whose only concern is the electorate of another nation. The fewer treats Merkel dispenses, the more praise she receives at home. Meanwhile the policies destroy Greece. Mathematical Irrelevance It's mathematically irrelevant whether the problem started in Greece, or Germany or who is to blame. And regardless of one's stance on bailouts, something has to give. This situation will be resolved in one of three ways. Three Possible Resolutions
Germany has ruled out number one. I highly doubt the people of Greece will put up with economic depression forever Neither option one, nor option two, solves any structural flaws with the euro itself. The needed discussion regards resolution three. Greece should hold this discussion, in a meaningful way or at least tell the people they have selected option number 2. Instead, all we see and hear is how Greece has turned the corner. Greece hasn't and won't turn the corner until it exits the euro, or the structural problems of the euro are addressed AND Greece gets debt relief. Violent Hyperinflationary End Years of economic depression has given rise to the Golden Dawn neo-Nazi party. And the absence of a meaningful discussion about the realities of the situation, coupled with blatant lies about how well Greece is doing, all but ensures a violent hyperinflationary end to this sad saga. Ironically, the Greek debt writeoff that Germany would not allow, will happen anyway, with Greece, Germany, and Europe all worse off because of the manner in which it happen. Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com |
Posted: 24 Nov 2013 12:50 PM PST On charges of "insulting the president", thirty policemen arrested the founder of the French website "http://hollande-démission.fr/" last week and impounded his car according to a translation from Les Observateurs. The website owner and four passengers were detained for 16 hours. "Démission" means resignation. Here is a translated excerpt from the "hollande-démission" site that got the website owner arrested. You get the feeling that things go wrong in France!Imagine being arrested for circulating a petition asking Obama to resign. Is it that far-fetched? Miscellaneous Note: The website of Acting Man is having technical difficulties. Pater Tenebrarum asked me to pass that note on. No estimated time as to when the problem will be fixed. Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com |
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