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- Stiglitz: Leaving the Euro Painful but Staying in More Painful; Eurozone Breakup Recap
- Ukraine Limits Withdrawals to 15,000 Hryvnia per Day (about $1,500); Hryvnia Up 14%
- Eurozone in Deflation; Monetarist Mouthpieces Will Scream
Stiglitz: Leaving the Euro Painful but Staying in More Painful; Eurozone Breakup Recap Posted: 28 Feb 2014 12:57 PM PST Nobel prize winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz has come to the right conclusion Leaving the Euro Painful but Staying in More Painful. Partial Transcript Question: I want to probe you a bit on that small mistake of the euro. UYou seem to suggest there is nothing that cannot be solved with more European solidarity and I agree with that intellectually. But if you are politically realistic, I don't think it is going to be forthcoming. I don't see large checks being written by German politicians to subsidize for example, the Spanish or Greek unemployed. So if you think about that perspective, and put yourself in the shoes of a 30-year old Spaniard or Greek head of household who has no prospect of employment, would it not be better is countries left the eurozone altogether? Stiglitz: As I said in my talk the reality is, if the reforms I described were made, Germany would not have to write large checks. It more likely to pay a high cost for not making these reforms. ... But I think your description of the reality of the way the dialog is going in Germany is absolutely correct. And that is one of the reasons I am a little depressed about the future of Europe. It's going to be a hard row to persuade Germany to make these reforms even if they would cost less. And that leaves Spain and Greece with an important debate, a policy question, what should they do if the reality is there won't be these reforms. To me the real risk is the following: Europe is going to dangle out just enough hope that Spain and Greece and the other periphery countries will say, they are going to come to our assistance. .... But they are going to dangle enough hope that people won't want to leave the euro, but in fact, there will be so little reform there will be literally no time soon the countries will emerge from depression. SAo my advice would be along the lines of what you are hinting at: They should probably face the reality that there is not going to be political reform that will make the euro viable for the periphery ... that internal devaluation won't work, that leaving the euro will be painful, but staying in the euro will be more painful. Among economists, there is an easier solution, that many people have argued, that Germany should leave. If Germany leaves, the value of the euro will go down, the competitiveness of the southern countries would become substantially enhanced. They can design a set of economic policies that work for a large group of countries, and owing money in euros they will be able to repay money in euros. Germany is in a better position to absorb the consequences of a breakup in that fashion. End Transcript Better if Germany Leaves I am in total agreement with the unknown questioner regarding the political reality: Germany will not pony up the cash, nor the banking union and fiscal unions required to make the euro work. On November 9, 2011 in Breakup Inevitable, but How? I offered the following comments. Eurozone Breakup Inevitable, But How?Eurozone Math; One Size Fits Germany; Door Number Two People accuse me of blaming Germany. The blame goes to the architects of the fatally flawed euro and the politicians who signed up for the mess. Blame also goes to the ECB. I have written about that on numerous occasions as well. For example, please consider my April 11, 2013 post Eurozone Math; One Size Fits Germany; Door Number Two. Reader "JB" thinks I am blaming Germany for what is happening. That's not exactly correct, but let's take a look at what "JB" has to say via email.Late to the PartyHi Mish,Hello JB, I think you misunderstand my message. I am not biased against Germany, and I am in favor of "austerity". Those just now coming to the conclusion the euro cannot possibly work are late to the party. Yet, many, if not most, still have not figured this out. Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com |
Ukraine Limits Withdrawals to 15,000 Hryvnia per Day (about $1,500); Hryvnia Up 14% Posted: 28 Feb 2014 10:19 AM PST Hoping to halt or slow capital flight and stop the run on banks, the Ukraine central bank limited foreign currency withdrawals to 15,000 Hryvnia per day as noted by FxStreet earlier today. Hryvnia vs. US Dollar Taking into account today's 14% rise, 15,000 Hryvnia is about $1,556. Capital controls and/or other interventions seem to have stopped the slide in Hryvnia. For how long? Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com |
Eurozone in Deflation; Monetarist Mouthpieces Will Scream Posted: 27 Feb 2014 11:24 PM PST Forget all the talk about CPI or as they call it in Europe HIPC (harmonized index of consumer prices) floating just under 1%. The true measure of inflation is credit expansion. And for the second month, credit contracted in the Eurozone. Reuters reports Euro zone lending contraction compounds ECB headache. Lending to households and firms in the euro zone fell again in January and money supply growth remained subdued, adding to pressure on the European Central Bank to take action next week to support the economy.Monetarist Mouthpieces Will Scream Credit contraction news will have all the monetarist mouthpieces screaming yet again. Ignore them. Stepping on the gas pedal with QE will not do a damn thing except create an even bigger asset bubble in European equities. When bubbles pop - and they always do - the only thing monetarists will have to offer is still more monetary stimulus. On January 27 I stated Deflation Will Return: Europe First, Then US. Here we are. For a discussion as to why the monetarists are dead wrong about what to do about the situation, please consider ...
Throwing money at problems has never once in history solved anything over the long term. Nonetheless, monetarist mouthpieces who do not understand history will be screaming for more currency intervention. Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com |
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